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Miss President
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Posted - 2010.12.11 14:07:00 -
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Not enough Macro threads, but yeah CCP needs to create a full time task force to deal with bots and macros
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Miss President
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Posted - 2010.12.19 05:51:00 -
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EVE is a source of income for CCP, only in case where CCP starts to suffer financially, it will assign a full task force with x-amount of employees, until than (CCP starts losing income), it will only put a few people in charge, without necessary means and methods to really do anything. What we're seeing here is a lame excuse, just to make believe something is getting done.
No offense to CCP folks who were assigned the tasks to deal with RMT/MACROS/BOTTERS, but until higher up CCP management decides that you need to get something accomplished you're not really getting far. It's not the matter of your dedication and what you believe.
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Miss President
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.19 18:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Reediculouhs
It's not a mystery folks. CCP wants profit.
Profit comes in the form of active accounts.
Ask yourself if you were making thousands of dollars would you ban those people for playing your "game"?
/nievity off
Active bots accounts bring CCP money - true, there may be plenty of BOTS and Macros that are used to gain in game isk and not for RMT purposes.
RMT takes income from CCP so they fights it, the first one does not. The only turning point I can see if more and more players are getting annoyed by unfair advantage given to people who use BOTs and Macros, in comparison if a tech II fitted ship may take someone 3-4 hour to earn, a BOT doesn't have to waste the time in front of the PC. This may result in big amount of subscription lost for CCP, only then they will act on it.
It seems the turning point for Botting and Macros is just now turning into a plague for EVE, if CCP loses credibility with player base for their inaction with BOTs and Macros it may very well be a start of decline of their subscription base. 54k people online right now means nothing, this can change any day.
Also, CCP's fight on RMT is only aimed to punish players who RMT from isk sellers, they give them warning and duduct the isk - by that they are preserving their right to collect money on GTC market and only worry about their profit. Yet for ISK sellers a banned account is nothing, they can open many new ones and still go on using those army of bots, which btw still brings CCP income - so they are still not losing much.
If CCP is worried about banning players with Bots and MAcros I think 1 warning before BAN should do, to stop normal, non isk sellers to stop using them.
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Miss President
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.19 18:22:00 -
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I have at one time started a topic on using similar program to punkbuster for eve.
100% of responses were negative, everyone hates etc, it can be easily defeated, too many problems and horrible experiences with punkbuster.
But i'm sure there should be other ways for CCP to check for bots.
For example, anyone suspected of using bots can have a pop op screen, with random questions, or 1st grade puzzles each time random, that no bot can defeat, display to them. If someone is botting and sitting in front of PC, than this won't work, but for those that are afk with bots it sure will.
There must be other creative ways to deal with bots and macros too.
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Miss President
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Reediculouhs
It is the plague of MMOs and there is no way around it...period!
True on MMOs, but somehow I'd like to think EVE is different, and CCP is able to come out on top more efficiently than others.
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Miss President
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran
Originally by: CCP Sreegs
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I recall seeing somewhere that using a third party software to gains you an unfair advantage over other players is illegal, so BOTs and Macros are illegal, it's just isn't much CCP want to do about, what about try?
You did say something that I agree with, and I also mentioned it in my earlier posts about people working on this issue will not advance until their superiors decide they need to advance.
I think a lot of front faces for CCP have a passion about the game, and try, but again without proper resource dedication from upper management nothing is getting done.
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Miss President
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.26 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Meridian Siri
Imoa CCP has done a passably good job at building a game that cover a diverse set of game playing "styles". I think that the impact of botters on the game is probably felt less by the really casual explorer-type (as described above). Their impact is felt more as a such a player tries to expand their horizons into other content of the game. A lot of the game (even PvP) is based in economics; when botters are on the board, it make it unrealistic that the honest player will be able to compete.
Last sentence is very true. To make things really work, CCP needs to do a life time ban on accounts associated with Bots, and secondary accounts where isk and good are transferred from bot account.
CCP is afraid for it's profit, and ruining fair game play, they give out minor accounts suspensions from what I hear. Make players caught with bots suffer majorly by losing everything they have and all their accounts, be that 2 3 4 or 5 accounts all banned. Lesser punishment would be full stripping of all assets on all accounts, and 1 month ban?
This will discourage 90% of players who uses bots for in game profit, ISK sellers will remain a separate issue, but the first is a big advancement.
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Miss President
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Posted - 2011.01.30 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: PhoenixofMT
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CCP PR (public relations) at work??
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Miss President
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.21 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Perramas
CCP doesnt not have to make EVE bot proof to get rid of botting. CCP only has to make the player base truly fear getting caught botting and the botting problem will go away. Enough with the temporary bans, they are not a deterrent. Permanently delete all characters on any account caught botting for any reason the first time and the botting problem will go away.
Would be nice, but CCP needs all the money they can get for their exit strategy from EVE. It seems they have decided Eve will fall in a year or two, based on their weak punishment of bots and inaction, they also timed the release of Incarna blog when most players are unable to compete with bots and thinking about quitting, as a bone thrown to the players to keep playing. Its a really bad situation for honest players, there are no alternatives to EVE so CCP is taking advantage of this to still collect revenue.
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Miss President
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.21 14:44:00 -
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I remember when isk farmers in one of the 0.0 region I lived in were actually people, and if you attacked one, couple more ravens would come to rescue from near by systems.
Back at those times, supercaps were extremely rare, losing a carrier or a dread was a big deal. I don't know at what point in time those same isk farmers started using bots, but there was a diffidently time in EVE when caps were being produced at unrealistic pace.
There could be many reasons, but I wonder to what percentage of those outrageous # of supercaps produced were funded by botting?
I'm only guessing "a lot". Also, it seems that at battle reports regular caps are not counted, only super caps which seems to be replaced pretty fast. Well, if I lose a cap and any other normal player they will have to sweat and work like a horse to replace it.
someone who knows lets put a guess
Percentage of capitals produced by the following:
1. Moon income
2. Rent income
3. Players hard work
4. Bots
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